Phelan Kheldian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.08.23 04:56:00 -
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Greetings,
This is basically my first Eve Online toon. I'm under 2 months old and around 2.6 million SP. I might be new, but I think I can offer some advice to help you:
Lilith5 wrote:I've realized that being below the great 10 mill skill mark makes life in eve very difficult for a new player. Almost all of the best corporations are looking for pilots that can fly BC 'Your character must be 10+' is the standard reply. I was lucky that I found a corporation which did allow newer players to enter mind.
Things I have found are:
As a new player It is very hard to make isk, even in low sec. And PVP seems to be highly based on big expensive ships and lots of skills.
Its not that hard to make ISK in high sec. I can make a few million ISK in a few hours of play each day; and I've been told by most people I'm not that good at making ISK. I run missions (up to level 2) in a destroyer (pretty easy ship to get into) and I salvage every kill I can. I have 8 high slots: 2 of them are salvagers, 6 are railguns. Salvage is really where you can make some ISK. I just fill my industrial ship up with loot I don't want and my salvage. Every few days I make a run to Jita and just wholesale it out.
Next, while I haven't done a lot of PvP, its not based just on big expensive ships and a lot of skill points. I've seen a lot of little frigates wolf-pack down bigger ships on videos and on killboards. And I think you can get yourself a pretty good tier 1 frigate for PvP with t2 modules for only a few million... and it doesn't take THAT long to get the skills up to use said modules, maybe a month or 2 at worst. Until then, use the t1 and loot modules.
Quote:Its hard for me to understand why CCP does this to its new players. In most games there are fun things to do even as a new player and life is not so restricting. It could be that the current percentage of new player/veteran players has gotten a lot wider since I started trying eve. It is also hard to fit a good ship when items are much higher prices and sell for as much as -90% below market value?
Welcome to Eve Online's market. It changes and adjusts based on supply and demand. use eve-central.com to watch for cheap prices for items you want to buy; although, be careful where it is. You might not have access to the station and/or it might be in null space.
Quote:I why doesn't CCP lower the sp needed to fly more powerful ships to their fullest. This would mean that a new player would be able to do the same things as a veteran player and eve would become more about the player than how long they have kept their subscription going for.
Because honestly, us new players should not be flying Tengus. We have no CLUE how to operate them effectively due to the lack of PLAYER (not character) skill. Smaller ships offer a chance to learn how to play Eve small chunks at a time: how the various weapon systems differ, how ECM and ECCM works, etc.
Plus there is something to be said about the excitment of when you finally unlock a new toy to play with. I can't wait to start unlocking t2 frigates in the next week or so.
Now I have some advice for getting into corps. Look for ones that are looking to train new players: Eve University and Noir. Academy (if you are interested in merc work) are the two I've heard about that seem to have a lot of credibility; Enlightened Academy just started so I can't speak on them (not saying they aren't credible, just that I haven't heard a ton on them). They can teach you what you need to know. If you just want to PvP, join RvB; they are about quick fun PvP and there is nothing wrong with that. Look on the forums here or Eve U's job fare or the recruitment channel. I'd also advise you to do some research into any corp you are considering joining. Do the research to help you make a good choice, you don't want to jump for corp to corp to corp because Eve corps tend to frown on corp jumpers.
Now, if your heart is really set on one of those 10 million SP corps, I have a suggestion for you: join their public channel and try to get to know them. This helps you in two ways: one, you can judge if you will fit in with them. And two, if they happen to like you and see you as an intelligent/reasonable player, they might waive their SP requirement because you might be 'worth the risk'. However, DO NOT ASK THEM TO WAIVE THE SP REQUIREMENT. If they ask why you haven't applied, tell them you are not eligible, but you want to get to know them before you apply. They might offer to waive it if they like you. Go in with a good attitude and don't be pushy.
Good luck and fly safe. You can always talk to me in-game if you want some more advice from a newb. :D |